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Antarctic Bedmap data: Findable, Accessible, Interoperable, and Reusable (FAIR) sharing of 60 years of ice bed, surface, and thickness data
Peter Fretwell
Julien A. Bodart
Hamish D. Pritchard
Alan Aitken
Jonathan L. Bamber
Robin Bell
Cesidio Bianchi
Robert G. Bingham
Donald D. Blankenship
Gino Casassa
Ginny Catania
Knut Christianson
Howard Conway
Hugh F. J. Corr
Xiangbin Cui
Detlef Damaske
Volkmar Damm
Reinhard Drews
Graeme Eagles
Olaf Eisen
Hannes Eisermann
Fausto Ferraccioli
Elena Field
René Forsberg
Steven Franke
Shuji Fujita
Yonggyu Gim
Vikram Goel
Siva Prasad Gogineni
Jamin Greenbaum
Benjamin Hills
Richard C. A. Hindmarsh
Andrew O. Hoffman
Per Holmlund
Nicholas Holschuh
John W. Holt
Annika N. Horlings
Angelika Humbert
Robert W. Jacobel
Daniela Jansen
Adrian Jenkins
Wilfried Jokat
Tom Jordan
Edward King
Jack Kohler
William Krabill
Mette Kusk Gillespie
Kirsty Langley
Joohan Lee
German Leitchenkov
Carlton Leuschen
Bruce Luyendyk
Joseph MacGregor
Emma MacKie
Kenichi Matsuoka
Mathieu Morlighem
Jérémie Mouginot
Frank O. Nitsche
Yoshifumi Nogi
Ole A. Nost
John Paden
Frank Pattyn
Sergey V. Popov
Eric Rignot
David M. Rippin
Andrés Rivera
Jason Roberts
Neil Ross
Anotonia Ruppel
Dustin M. Schroeder
Martin J. Siegert
Andrew M. Smith
Daniel Steinhage
Michael Studinger
Bo Sun
Ignazio Tabacco
Kirsty Tinto
Stefano Urbini
David Vaughan
Brian C. Welch
Douglas S. Wilson
Duncan A. Young
Achille Zirizzotti
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- Final revised paper (published on 17 Jul 2023)
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- Preprint (discussion started on 22 Nov 2022)
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RC1: 'Comment on essd-2022-355', Anonymous Referee #1, 06 Feb 2023
Frémand and her co-authors in their paper entitled "Antarctic BedMAP data: FAIR sharing of 60 years of ice bed, surface and thickness data" make available all the geophysical data (mainly by radio echo-sounding) acquired since the 1960s and crucial in our knowledge of the topography of the bedrock elevation under the Antarctic ice sheet. The opening of these data is an important advance for the community and was widely expected. It will allow various teams to take advantage of the initial dataset to allow the emergence of new methodologies and propose more accurate Digital Elevation Models (DEMs) that are compatible with the physics of ice sheet models in particular (e.g. see the BedMachine initiative). These DEMs are an essential boundary condition for modeling ice dynamics and projecting the future of Antarctica and its contribution to sea level rise. I therefore consider this paper important, well structured and recommend it for publication after minor adjustments.
- Web links appears with a date of access, I presume this is an editorial issue which I guess will be solved before the final publication?
- On first reading, I had trouble understanding whether the shapefile data was the same as the CSV data. I admit that this is fairly obvious when you look at Tables 2 and 3, but the doubt lingered with me for a while. I think it comes from the introduction to section 3.3, the first sentence starting with "the CSV data were converted to shapefile" (L. 260). I think that presenting the need to offer summarised data might come before using the word "convert" which seems to me to be a bit of a misnomer, it is more than a format conversion.
- L 262-264. "For Bedmpa1 (there is a typo), due to the difficulty... not possible to convert BedMap1... : only the bedmap1 shapefile points are provided". I don't understand this sentence, I see a contradiction, the conversion is not possible but the shapefile is provided. This needs to be rephrased. I presume the idea is that BEDMAP1 is provided as only one shapefile and not split by campaign but this is not clear.
- Figure 2 panel d. Maybe the color scale could be adjusted, any red dot can be seen and it is hard to distinguish the two shade of orange used.
- L 309. A space is missing after the dot.
- L 318. The word pixel is introduced when cell was used before. I believe that only one word should be used.
- Regarding the publishing of the data sources. Quantarcica (https://www.npolar.no/quantarctica) is widely used by the community, I would encourage the BEDMAP team to use this platform to further promote their dataset.
- Regarding the access of the data. The front page is very clear (https://www.bas.ac.uk/project/bedmap/#data), one could ask why the Bedmap1 gridding product is not provided. It becomes a bit more fuzzy when we visit the sub pages.
- When we clic on the links provided under the statistically-summarized data points Shapefiles, the title of the following pages have dropped the word « statistically summarized » to « standardized shapefiles ». This extends the confusion I mentioned earlier.
- When on one of the metadata or data webpages (e.g. https://ramadda.data.bas.ac.uk/repository/entry/show?entryid=a72a50c6-a829-4e12-9f9a-5a683a1acc4a) there is a list of associated datasets. This list of associated datasets is not consistent from one page to another and do not understand why. If the aim is to promote the other datasets proposed by BEDMAP, I do not understand why these paragraphs are not simply entitled « Other BEDMAP products » with only one link to the front page.
- I would find it useful if the data could be downloaded in a few clicks and not mission by mission (e.g. I would have liked to be able to download all the BedMap3 shapefiles in one click for example)
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/essd-2022-355-RC1 -
AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Alice Fremand, 31 Mar 2023
We would like to thank both reviewers for their very positive and insightful reviews of our manuscript, as well as the editorial team for handling the review process.
We are very pleased to see that both reviewers recognised the importance and usefulness of our dataset and manuscript, as well as the time invested in standardising and publishing the data following the FAIR principles. Both reviewers have provided us with some excellent comments, which have undoubtedly improved the quality of our manuscript.
In this response letter, we begin by addressing the comments from Reviewers #1, followed by those made by Reviewer #2. We have formatted the comments of each reviewer in italics and have highlighted our responses in red below each comment.
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RC2: 'Comment on essd-2022-355', Johnathan Kool, 27 Feb 2023
General Comments:
This is a significant paper, and one that will be of great interest to researchers. Not only does it mark the release of a significant data set, but it also does an excellent job of addressing data management considerations. The information is presented clearly, and there are many aspects which are highly citable. I have only minor suggestions and corrections, listed below.
Specific Comments:
Line 115 (suggestion): It may worth referencing Section III 1 c of the Antarctic Treaty here - identifying the need beyond a moral imperative to make the data available
Line 246 (suggestion): Consider providing an abbreviated example of what the header and lines might look like. Information can be condensed using '...', but I think an example would make it easier to visualise the content of this paragraph.
Line 294 (question): -9999 values often present problems for interpolation, or situations where data ranges can encompass -9999. ALthough that is not the case here - are there any alternatives for better representing NULL/NaN/Uknown values? I recognise that this is an issue with CSV, but it may be worth thinking about better ways of encoding this information.
Lines 309 & 326 (question) - You discuss how uncertainty in elevation values was handled, but was there also consideration for varying spatial accuracies?
Technical comments:
Figs 1&2 - Polar stereographic projection?
There are many instances where intensifiers(e.g. see https://advice.writing.utoronto.ca/revising/wordiness/) are unnecessarily used.
97: "user-friendly" subjective assertion - consider omitting.
148: "rapidly" is there evidence or a citation? Otherwise omit.
153: "considerable" - consider omitting
154: "Indeed," - unnecessary
170: "in order" - unnecessary
265: "extremely" - unnecessary
267: "Such an" - unnecessary
356: "In order" - unnecessary
365: "easily" - subjective assertion - consider omitting
377: "full" - unnecessary
386: "particularly" unnecessary
Paragraph at 414 (several): Change to "This data release will benefit the glaciology and broader Earth scienc community, particularly in emerging fields such as machine learning and geostatistics which can now make use of this standardised data, and reproduce and create new compilation grids at different scales independently from the Bedmap grids. These standardised, freely available, and previously-unpublished datasets will lead to improved assessments of fundamental properties of the Antarcitc Ice Sheet and predictions of its future contributions to sea level rise, increasing the (life cycle) of these important data." -- ('life cycle' is an odd choice of words - maybe just 'value'?)
Line 455 - Normally I leave Acknowledgements alone - but "beyond measure" seems a bit hyperbolic. It's up to you.
Typos:
Line 111: Theses - These
Line 361: Althought - Although
394: Bedamp3 -> Bedmap3
415: geostatiscs -> geostatistics
416: indenpendently -> independently
Line 422: Direct link -> Direct links
Line 423: Capitalise RAMADDA (or standardise usage)
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/essd-2022-355-RC2 -
AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Alice Fremand, 31 Mar 2023
We would like to thank both reviewers for their very positive and insightful reviews of our manuscript, as well as the editorial team for handling the review process.
We are very pleased to see that both reviewers recognised the importance and usefulness of our dataset and manuscript, as well as the time invested in standardising and publishing the data following the FAIR principles. Both reviewers have provided us with some excellent comments, which have undoubtedly improved the quality of our manuscript.
In this response letter, we begin by addressing the comments from Reviewers #1, followed by those made by Reviewer #2. We have formatted the comments of each reviewer in italics and have highlighted our responses in red below each comment.
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AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Alice Fremand, 31 Mar 2023