Articles | Volume 15, issue 11
https://doi.org/10.5194/essd-15-4927-2023
© Author(s) 2023. This work is distributed under the Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 License.
FORMS: Forest Multiple Source height, wood volume, and biomass maps in France at 10 to 30 m resolution based on Sentinel-1, Sentinel-2, and Global Ecosystem Dynamics Investigation (GEDI) data with a deep learning approach
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- Final revised paper (published on 02 Nov 2023)
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RC1: 'Comment on essd-2023-196', Anonymous Referee #1, 10 Jul 2023
- AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Martin Schwartz, 06 Sep 2023
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RC2: 'Comment on essd-2023-196', Anonymous Referee #2, 12 Aug 2023
- AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Martin Schwartz, 06 Sep 2023
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AR by Martin Schwartz on behalf of the Authors (07 Sep 2023)
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ED: Publish as is (12 Sep 2023) by Jia Yang
AR by Martin Schwartz on behalf of the Authors (20 Sep 2023)
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Summary
Accurate forest height and biomass mapping and monitoring is important for forest management and biodiversity conservation. Here Schwartz et al., generated a 10 m resolution canopy height map in 2020, by integrating multis-source remote sensing dataset and a deep-learning model; subsequently, with allometric equations fitted to nation forest inventory (NFI), they generated a 30 m resolution above-ground biomass density (AGBD) map. The fine resolution from 10 m to 30 m is essential for analyzing forests in France, which are typically divided into small stands. Through extensive validation against multi-source independent and observational dataset, they showed greater performance for their generated dataset compared to existing canopy height and AGBD products. The manuscript is generally well organized and well written, and the research is important. Here, I listed a few concerns regarding the manuscript.
Specific comments
1) Line 104-105, does the randomness of the split affect the model performance? Generally, in computer science and Earth science, such random split will be repeated for a few times. The mean and standard deviation of the performance metrics derived from a few experiments will be used to show the model performance and related uncertainty.
2) Line 108-109, “We used the 10 by 10 m pixel corresponding to the center of the GEDI footprint as a target”. It seems that the spatial resolution of the input data is 10 m, but the output GEDI data has a resolution of 25m, the sub-pixel (i.e., across 10 m grid cells) heterogeneity within each GEDI footprint should not be contained in the output data. Also the NFI data has a resolution of 30m, then how to validate that the generated canopy height data at 10 m resolution captured the heterogeneity at that scale? Why not unify the input data to the same resolution (e.g., 30m) of GEDI or NFI or generated AGBD?
3) Line 111-112, the loss function should be the loss on the validation dataset, right? Please clarify it. To make sure the results reproducible, it could be better to list the learning rate used. In addition, are there any strategies used to avoid overfitting of the trained models?
4) Line 133-134, “we compared them to the mean of the FORMS-H height in each NFI plot's 30 m circular area”. For the finally generated dataset, how did you upscale from 10 m to 30 m resolution? First calculate the mean FORMS-H height within each 30m grid cell, then calculate its corresponding AGBD or wood volume? Please clarify it in the main text. Then again, why not generate the canopy height data at 30 m resolution during the first step?
5) Line 150-151, so you fitted FORMS-H height against NFI WVD for the final WVD data generation, right? Please clarify it. Since NFI WVD and NFI AGBD have a linear relationship (i.e., linked through the volume-to-biomass ratio), the fitted non-linear relationship between AGBD-height and WVD-height should be the same except for a scaling factor, correct? It could be better to put the fitted results of WVD-height in the supplementary to help the readers to better understand the methods and interpret the results.
6) Fig. 4b, it seems that the generated canopy height in the third column is not well matched with Google map, any reasons for that?
7) Fig. 6, why select those four regions for comparison? What’s the model performance across the entire ALS dataset? Does the generated dataset still outperform other products?
8) Fig. 7, similar problem to my comment#6
9) Fig.8e-f, do the data points represent the AGBD data across all sites in GLORIE and Renecofor or only represent sites falling into selected regions of Fig.8a-d? Please clarify it in the figure caption.
10) Fig.9, what about the R2 metric for the comparison?
11) Any potential limitations for the generated dataset so that the readers can further improve it?
12) The title and main text contain FORMS-H, FORMS-V and FORMS-B, but the abstract only showed the results of FORMS-H and FORMS-B. Briefly introducing the performance of FORMS-V is therefore needed to show the quality of the generated dataset.