I thank the authors for taking the time to address my comments and suggestions. Especially the clarifications with respect to the use of post-fit residual derived covariance information and the inclusion of an extended contribution analysis make the manuscript easier to follow. I also thank the authors for updating the figures which I know can be a lot of work. Overall, the manuscript is - in my opinion – now in a much better shape.
Before publication I have a few remaining points that need to be addressed. Please find my responses to the author comments below.
AC: Thank you for your insightful comment regarding the truncation of the time-
variable coefficients at degree 60. We appreciate the opportunity to clarify our
methodology.
First, we would like to correct a potential misunderstanding: in our joint inversion
scheme, the time-variable coefficients (up to degree 60) and the static coefficients
(up to degree 180) are estimated simultaneously as independent parameters
without any prior constraints from background models. That is, the coefficients
above degree 60 for the time-variable part are not fixed to any background field;
rather, they are simply not parameterized because our analysis indicates that the
time-variable signal energy is inherently concentrated at very low degrees.
To justify this truncation choice, we conducted a dedicated experiment using the
GOCO06s model. Specifically, we allowed its time-variable coefficients to evolve
with time and then superimposed them onto the static coefficients. The resulting
changes in the combined coefficients were found to be significant only up to degree
40, while higher-degree terms remained nearly unchanged. This demonstrates that
the temporal signals have negligible power beyond approximately degree 40, and
therefore truncating the time-variable estimation at degree 60 is a physically
reasonable dimension reduction strategy rather than a hard constraint. It avoids
introducing noise from high-degree temporal parameters without sacrificing
meaningful geophysical signals. The following Figure is mainly about the geoid
difference for GOCO06s at different time t with respect to the base model EIGEN-
6C4, which can confirm our statement mentioned above
RC: I appreciate your attempt to clarify this point, but not estimating parameters above degree 60 exactly fixes these degrees to the background model (in your case GOCO06s because it is introduced up to degree 120). If there is a discrepancy between the information content in the observations and the background model, this difference will leak into the estimated parameters. This mechanism of aliasing is well documented and understood (e.g., Sneeuw & Van Gelderen, 1997 or https://d-nb.info/960213988/34 pp. 55 – 56 for early references).
Truncating at any degree is a hard constraint for any parameters above the truncation degree. How the truncation degree is derived does not change this fact and “physically reasonable dimension reduction strategy” is just a different way of describing it. To put it plainly: “therefore truncating the time-variable estimation at degree 60 is a physically reasonable dimension reduction strategy rather than a hard constraint.” (P4 L21 – L24) is simply a wrong statement and hides the implicit regularization. This is not opinion, this is math.
You state yourself that “it avoids introducing noise from high-degree temporal parameters”, so the truncation stabilizes your solution, which is the exact effect of a regularization. Compare your approach to a Kaula-type regularization: it is also physically derived information on how different degrees of the gravity field behave. While the approaches differ in the degree wise behavior (your approach: degrees 2 – 60 can vary freely, degrees 61 and above are fixed to the background; Kaula: inverse power law), they are conceptually equivalent.
I do not disagree with your approach and find it very practical; I just want that implicit regularizations are transparently communicated to the user community. Please correct this in the manuscript.
AC: For the second part, we don’t use any low-pass filtering before down sampling
since the original 2s LRI data has been performed the CRN filter (a kind of low
pass anti-aliasing filter). And we also compare the different performance of the
temporal gravity field at different LRI data resolution (i.e. 2s, 4s, 6s). The
experiment reveals that there is no significant difference between the performance
of 2 s and 4 s LRI data on temporal gravity field determination.
RC: The cutoff of the CRN filter used by JPL is 0.25 Hz, so when down sampling to 4 s aliasing will occur. If the LRI product you use, applies a different CRN filter, please specify the filter properties, if not please acknowledge that no further lowpass filtering occurred but you deem the impact to be minor. Showing the differences in absolute to probably EIGEN-6C4 does not make this impact visible.
AC: For the third part, we perform a post-fit residual experiment based on the monthly
temporal gravity field determination at different degree and order (i.e. 60 and 120).
The result shows that even the recover order is set as 60, little temporal signal is
shown in the post-fit residual. The result is shown as the following figure but not
shown in our manuscript.
RC: Range rate residuals are not suitable for checking physical signals as they are dominated by long-wavelength accelerometer and background-model errors that hide small-scale geophysical features which are what you want to find. Range-accelerations are more appropriate, because the differentiation acts as high pass filter. This experiment therefore does not confirm that there is no temporal signal left.
AC: Thank you for your comments. We have replotted the figure according to your
comments.
RC: In Figure 3, the correlation matrices are still rectangular rather than square and the lag unit is still samples rather than a time unit. Since there are different sampling periods (5s KBR vs 4s LRI) this remains ambiguous.
AC: Thank you for your comments. The constraint for the gravity field usually
needs some prior/external information. However, the specific external information
is dependent on the kinds of constraint, and our scope of manuscript is not the
design of constraint. We can’t specify the external information used in
GOCO06s/ITSG-Grace2018s determination, and for a clearer classification, we
add some related reference articles in our manuscript.
RC: This statement contradicts P23, L3, where you state “due to the regularization imposed by external data in its estimation strategy”. If you do not know what external data and regularization is used, how can you be certain that this is the sole reason this model performs better?
AC: Thank you for your comments. According to your comments above, we add
the contribution matrix result for trend parameters. The new result indicates that
there is relationship between the static and trend parameters, while there is some
prior information need to be introduced during the gravity field determination to
decorrelate the relationship between the static and trend/oscillation parameters.
In our solution, the static and trend/oscillation parameters are estimated
simultaneously, not estimated independently and no external information is
introduced during the gravity field determination. Therefore, our solution is not
dependent on the background model. The change from Figure 10 to Figure 11 may
be attributed to the relationship between the static and trend/oscillation
parameters, not the truncation degree for the trend/oscillation parameters.
RC: Please see my first comment on the issue of external information and regularization. |
This paper showcases the latest progress of the HUST team in the field of gravity field modeling. HUST-Grace 2026s successfully integrates 23 years of GRACE and GRACE-FO observation data spanning from 2002 to 2025. Both the accuracy and reliability of the model have been significantly enhanced. Incorporating LRI1B data into the static field determination framework is a major highlight of this study, providing a valuable reference for the establishment of cross generational satellite gravity benchmarks.
There may still be room for further exploration regarding the analysis of the LRI contribution. Utilizing the resolution matrix is an effective way to understand the relative contribution of each observation component within the entire solution system. According to the results in Fig. 11, GRACE KBR plays a more dominant role compared to GRACE-FO KBR/LRI for the HUST-Grace 2026s model. This is likely due to the fact that the GRACE KBR data spans 15 years while the GRACE-FO data covers only about 6 years within the timeframe. However, this could easily lead readers to the misconception that the data of GRACE KBR is superior to that of GRACE-FO KBR/LRI. I believe this point needs to be clarified in the text to distinguish between data quantity and data quality. Additionally, I am curious to know what the relative contributions of GRACE-FO KBR and LRI to the static field would be if the calculation timeframe were restricted to the GRACE-FO mission period alone, for example, from January 2019 to June 2023.