Articles | Volume 16, issue 12
https://doi.org/10.5194/essd-16-5643-2024
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The PAZ polarimetric radio occultation research dataset for scientific applications
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- Final revised paper (published on 10 Dec 2024)
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Review comments for “the PAZ polarimetric radio occultation research dataset for scientific applications” by Padulles et al.
This paper summarizes the PAZ satellite core Level 2 product dataset and its usability for scientific applications. The original scientific goal for the PAZ mission was to demonstrate polarimetric RO can be used to retrieve heavy precipitation. Research over the years went beyond the original goal to discover the signal association to clouds, and the dataset described in this manuscript is carefully crafted to be particularly suitable for studying cloud-precipitation-thermodynamic interactions. The dataset contains three main groups: (1) RO and phase difference profiles; (2) rays for limb sounding that accounts for earth’s rotation as well; (3) collocated cloud and precipitation products from other satellites, including the IMERG precipitation rate, 10.8 um infrared band brightness temperature (TB) and passive microwave (PMW) TBs. The second group is particularly important for fair study the cloud-precipitation-thermodynamic interactions by synergizing limb and nadir soundings together. Several examples are provided in the manuscript to showcase how this dataset could be useful and providing high-quality measurements.
This is a high quality dataset, not only the data quality, but more importantly the scientific quality. Being able to sensing thermodynamic structures within clouds and precipitation, this dataset contains high potential to help tackling some of the long-standing challenges that the majority of current spaceborne passive remote sensing products having in cloudy and precipitating scenes. Even better, the producers of this dataset (i.e., key authors on this paper), took careful consideration of caveats matching limb measurements with nadir measurements by providing the ray paths and matched TBs along the rays. Hence I strongly support the publication of this dataset to the public.
There are some minor issues that I think should be addressed before the acceptance though, mainly to clear out some parts that can cause confusions. Also, as a standard procedure to publish a dataset, the independent validation part feels a bit too weak in the current version. It would be really helpful to have some additional water vapor and temperature sounding comparison results to show in the revised version against other available RO products (global mean as well as regional error distributions) to assess the overall quality of PAZ’s Prf products.
Minor comments:
L124: what’s a Doppler model and why you need it for forward modeling (?) or retrieval purpose?
General procedures from Step 1 to Step 12 around Line 130: there’s no discussion regarding the U and V components when you do the decomposition. Are they negligible or your receiver can always perfectly align with the I & Q component? This is never clear to me. Also, it is never mentioned in this manuscript how you tease out possible orientation rotation due to magnetic field in Earth’s upper atmosphere when the RO rays pathed through?
Fig. 2: It’s not clear if resPrf depends on input from UCAR wetPrf2? Does resPrf contain temperature and water vapor retrievals or just the bending angle (or refractivity)?
Line 195: how do you tell if a suddent delta_Phi increase is not due to intersecting heavy precip, but rather untrustworthy measurements?
Section 4.1, paragraph 1: this paragraph is really confusing. Up till reading this paragraph that I started to realize that your resPrf is different from the standard atmPrf and wetPrf products that UCAR produce for the PAZ mission. Could you provide a percentage rate how many PAZ RO measurements pass the QC and can successfully generate atmPrf and wetPrf at UCAR?
Line 240: this is another major part that confuses me: so does the “coll” group contain the imagery from collocated nadir sensor measurements (PMW TB, IR TB, IMERG) or the sensor TBs are instead projected to the ray paths as shown in Fig. 4?
Line 260: one caveat for this assumption is that there’s no temperature inversion layer and no large perturbations (e.g., caused by gravity wave near the convective clouds) that cause artifacts in your decision process, correct? Please clarify here.
Line 271: does your “coll” product also include the view-angle from cross-track scanning PMW measurements? TB needs to be corrected for the slantwise view-angle or otherwise the climatology can be nontrivially biased.
Fig. 5: caption misses to describe what is N and what is Nmodel. Reading the context around Fig. 5 making me wonder about the temperature and water vapor retrieval qualities and whether that’s part of this dataset that needs to be validated or assessed at least.
Fig. 6: caption misses to explain the grey dashed lines.
Section 6.2.1: you misses a very important reason to explain the underestimation of CTH from your method: for cloud/snow ice, delta_phi is only large when particles are dominantly horizontally oriented, which not happens in the convective core but in anvils (which is below the convective core) or stratiform precipitating region. Please add in this explanation as well if seeing appropriate.
Fig. 7: change “geometry” to “after geometry correction”.
Line 396: how do you deal with the cloud fraction (CF) in a grid box?
Line 414: I think it would better to have some discussions regarding data assimilation of the Delta_phi to plant a seed for future applications, especially considering that your group had done some preliminary work regarding this aspect to make PAZ measurements more useful for NWP.