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https://doi.org/10.5194/essd-16-3149-2024
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SMOS-derived Antarctic thin sea ice thickness: data description and validation in the Weddell Sea
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Review report of “SMOS-derived Antarctic thin sea-ice thickness: data description and validation in the Weddell Sea” submitted to Earth System Science Data.
The goal of this paper is to construct a data record of Antarctic thin ice thickness from SMOS measurements and the authors try to validate the data record initially. This is an interesting goal and I sincerely thank for the effort of the authors to provide an important ice thickness data set over the Antarctic. However, I have critically wondered that the results of this paper do not fit the scope of the journal which is “the reuse of high-quality data of benefit to Earth system science”. The algorithm described in this paper for Antarctic thin ice is just from the existing algorithm applicable to Arctic sea ice. As the authors discussed, the characteristic differences between Arctic and Antarctic sea ice are significant. However, I can’t find any effort to consider or analyze the different characteristics between them that can affect the retrieved SMOS thin ice thickness at all throughout the paper. In the case that it will be done in the paper, I can’t accept the validation results which are not sufficient for the potential user to use this product having convincing. For instance, thin ice thickness is very important to be used in data assimilation systems in sea ice models. In order to use the ice thickness for this purpose, a much more relevant error analysis should be preceded to provide an observation error covariance matrix. The data produced here may be biased to the real state vectors over different regions. At least, error propagation analysis should be accompanied, however, there is no effort on this in the paper. I totally agree that few observation data compared to Arctic areas. In addition, several assumptions were used to estimate thin ice thickness, however, there is no evidence or error analysis to prove that the assumptions are valid. For instance, the algorithm assumes 100% ice condition which rarely exits over Antarctic thin ice distributions even in the middle of austral wintertime, however, the authors just discussed that less than 100% ice condition doesn’t matter because the product shows well growth of the seasonal ice. I can’t agree with this. I feel that the authors would compare SMOS sea ice extent to other data in order to show that the SMOS ice thickness data over SMOS is plausible. However, I don’t understand why this comparison can provide information on the general quality and completeness of the SMOS sea ice thickness product. As known, sea ice thickness is vertical information while sea ice extent gives horizontal spreads of sea ice. In addition, specific comments are listed below.
(1) Page 2, Line 39: ‘record’ can be ‘records’. There are numerous subject-verb agreement problems. I don’t want to review all the same problems in this paper. Please check carefully throughout the paper.
(2) Page 2, Line 41: add ‘last’ between ‘since’ and ‘five’ or specify the years you referred to.
(3) Page 2, Line 43: what is the ‘can be also be’? If it is a typo, correct this.
(4) Page 4, Line 106: does the ‘full polarization’ mean full Stokes’ component including third and fourth Stokes’ polarizations? If not, change it into ‘first two polarizations’.
(5) Page 4, Line 109: This sentence can be modified as “SMOS measures brightness temperatures with a spatial resolution of about 35 km at nadir on a daily basis in the polar regions”.
(6) Page 4, Line 116: perhaps, oN and oS can be switched.
(7) Page 4, Lines 119-120: Define both ‘JRA’ and ‘GMT’ when they first appear.
(8) Page 5, Lines 126-127: Again, please define ‘GECCO2’ and ‘MITgcm’
(9) Page 5, Line 128: ‘are’ can be ‘were’. Please use ‘past sentence’ when you did something for this work throughout the paper. There are tons of these kinds of issues in the paper. I don’t want to spend time to peak all issues.
(10) Page 5, Line 132: Define ‘HEM’ and ‘SUIT’
(11) Page 6, Line 141: ‘ULS’ was already defined in the introduction.
(12) Page 6, Lines 141-142: ‘have’ can be changed into ‘had’.
(13) Page 7, Line 164: how to prescribe snow depth, snow density, and water density in order to utilize the hydrostatic equilibrium equation.
(14) Page 7, Line 170: the authors mentioned that “in addition, ice thickness variation within the SMOS grid are considered”. why did you consider this for what?
(15) Page 7-8, Line 176-177: This sentence is imperfect. Please rewrite it. This sentence gives weird information that “inhomogeneities are much smaller than the wavelength of 21 cm.”
(16) Page 9, Line 193: Define ‘ISEA 4H9’.
(17) Page 14, Line 233: the authors should discuss the difference between v3.2 and v3.3 in detail in the paper.
(18) Page 15, Lines 261-262: ULS sees different ice floes as sea ice flows by ocean current. In order to make a comparison between ULS and SMOS ice thicknesses, the authors should track the ice floes even for monthly comparison, which process was done in many papers for Arctic sea ice studies. Perhaps the Lagrangian tracking method would be useful.
(19) Regarding the sea surface salinity (SSS) dataset: the SSS climatology used in this study was based on a model simulation over the years 1952-2001 which is far from the SMOS period. Is there any other SSS climatology covering the SMOS observation period? If so, recommend replacing the SSS dataset.
(20) Regarding the ULS dataset: the authors converted the ice draft into total thickness using an empirical linear fit equation, which is a very important relationship in the validation section. It is weird that there is no discussion of this fit equation in the paper.
(21) Table 1: why several ULS data were neglected in this paper? I don