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A new inventory of High Mountain Asia surge-type glaciers derived from multiple elevation datasets since the 1970s
Jia Li
Amaury Dehecq
Zhiwei Li
Jianjun Zhu
Abstract. Surges are an important source of glacier hazards and complete surge-type glacier inventories are required for assessing glacier-related hazards. Glacier surge events in High Mountain Asia (HMA) are widely reported. However, the completeness of present inventories of HMA surge-type glaciers is constrained by the insufficient spatial and temporal coverage of glacier change observations, or by the limitations of the identification methods. In this paper, we established a new inventory of HMA surge-type glaciers based on the glacier surface elevation changes over four decades. Four kinds of elevation sources (KH-9 DEM, NASADEM, COP30 DEM, HMA8m DEM) were utilized to estimate the glacier surface elevation changes during two periods (1970s–2000 and 2000–2010s). In total 1015 surge-type glaciers were identified in HMA. Compared to the latest surge-type glacier inventory in HMA, our inventory incorporated 477 new surge-type glaciers. The number and area of surge-type glaciers accounted for ~2.49 % (excluding glaciers less than 0.3 km2) and ~23.32 % of the total glacier number and glacier area in HMA, respectively. Considering that glacier outlines are usually composed of multiple tributaries within a glacier complex, the proportion of surge-related area may be overestimated, and the number of surge-type glaciers could be even larger. Surge-type glaciers were found in 21 of the 22 subregions of HMA (except for the Dzhungarsky Alatau), however, the density of surge-type glaciers is highly uneven. Surge-type glaciers are common in the northwest subregions (e.g., Pamir and Karakoram), but scarce in the peripheral subregions (e.g., Eastern Tien Shan, Eastern Himalaya, and Hengduan Shan). The inventory indicates that surge activity is more likely to occur for larger and longer glaciers. Besides, we found a potential relationship between the frequency of surge activities andregional glacier mass balance. The subregions with slightly negative or positive mass balance hold large clusters of surge-type glaciers, while those with severe glacier mass loss hold very few surge-type glaciers. In some subregions where glacier mass loss accelerated, the frequency of surge activities that occurred before 2000 was much higher than that after 2000. The inventory is available at: https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.6944979 (Guo et al., 2022).
Lei Guo et al.
Status: closed
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AC1: 'Presented inventory in the format of ESRI shapefile', Lei Guo, 22 Aug 2022
Dear referees and editors,
Thanks for your patience while handling this manuscript!
The presented inventory in the format of ESRI Shapefile format is provided here, which could make the dataset more flexible to use. Please find that in the supplement compressed file. Also, the corresponding file on Zendo was updated as well. Hope this can help.Best regards.
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RC1: 'Comment on essd-2022-238', Gregoire Guillet, 16 Sep 2022
General comments:
The manuscript presents a new invenory of surge-type glaciers in High Mountain Asia, dervied from glacier surface elevation changes computed from various DEM sources, between the 1970's and 2010's.
The manuscript tackles an important topic which is the identification of surging behavior over a large spatial and temportal scale using remotely sensed glacier observables and thus aims at proposing an updated inventory by incorportaing historical data absent from other studies.
This problem is of significant importance or the community and the proposed paper is of overall good quality.
However, there are some major shortcomings that need to be addressed:
- The authors here rely solely on anomalous surface elevation change pattern to identify surging behavior. This can lead to false identifications of glaciers present similarly altered surface elevation change signal (See specific comments for more). Some of the widely known shortcomings of the datasets used in this study, as welll as the existing corrections (SRTM C-Band penetration correction) are not accounted for in this study, which may lead to furher false positive identifications.
- The auhors rightfully propose a classification that assigns a level of certainty over the potential surge behavior of each glacier. This is a valid approach since the authors only have one identification criterion and I commend them for doing so. However, when analyzing, discussing and presenting their results, the authors seem to forget that surge-type behavior is uncertain for some glaciers and consistently mention 1015 surge-type glaciers while "only" 704 present indications of surge-type behavior.
- Finally, some of the Introduction and Discussion lack context and an adequate description of the state of knowledge of what are glacier surges and the processes that govern glacier instabilities.I want to restate my support for this manuscript and the work it presents. Given its current state however, I suggest that the authors make major additions and changes to both their methodology and results before this manuscript can be considered for publication
As an example, adding more than one identification criterion would strengthen the confidence in the presetend results. The authors could for example use availble satellite images to visually investigate changes in surface and geomorphological features like crevasses, supraglacial ponds or looped moraines.
Specific comments:L15-16. This statement is misleading as your classification is based on the confidence degree you have over certain surge events - all the glaciers in your inventory have different level of confidence.
This directly differs from the methodology used in Guillet et al, which I assume is the work you refer to, which used different identification criterion to investigate surges.L23. This relationship was actually first described in the enthalpy blance thoery of glacier surges proposed by Benn et al 2019. Please rephrase this statement.
L27. Isn't that just because of a sampling bias, as a longer observational period allows to identify more surges ?
L32. Please describe what do those phases entail and how do they differ.
L34. While I agree that the physics governing the unstable flow exhibited by surge-type glaciers requires a better understanding, I also think that speaking of 'enigma' disregards the substantial efforts made in the recent years to further our understanding of glacier surges.
The authors should here at least refer to the works of Sevestre and Benn (2015), Benn et al (2019), or Thøgersen et al. (2019) (among others) in order to provide an up-to-date synthesis of the state of knowlegde on the physics of surge-type glaciers.L35. Please be more specific in this statement. 'Fast' is very vague without a reference.
This sentence is not easy to read and could benefit from being segmented and more detailed.L46. Not all surging glaciers show terminal advance. I suggest reading through the works of Paul et al. (2017) and Steiner et al. (2018, already cited in your work).
L58. Contrasting elevation change signal is indeed a powerful tool to identify surge-type glaciers when it is associated to other remotely sensed observations (surface velocity, changes in crevassse pattern etc.).
However the statement made here is misleading as both Lv et al (2019) and Guillet et al (2022) also changes in surface velocity to identify surges.
Furthermore, Viay and Braun (2017) focus on the early 21st century - a period of 12 years - not necessarily what could be called a 'long temporal scale'.L92: As mentionned, the NASADEM used in this sudy originates from a reprocessing of the C-band SRTM.
This data is however known for suffering from important radard penetration.
This is more than likely to create spurious elevation change signal in the upper reaches of glaciers which can then lead to false identification of build-up phases, for example.
This has to be addressed here, since the NASADEM is extensively used throughout this study.Sec 4.3: This is my main concern with this manuscript.
Surge-type glaciers are mainly identified using only surface elevation changes.
To me, this approach is a bit hazardous, as many processes can cause altered glacier surface elevation changes compared to what would be deemed as "normal" or "standard".
I am here typically thinking about glaciers affected by landslides for example (Hewitt, 2009, Van Wyk de Vries et al., 2022) for example.
This needs to be further investigated, including the possibility of using additionnal criteria to validate the identified surges. Such criteria would typically be morphological (Looped moraine or changes in crevasse patterns) as I doubt of the availability of glacier surface velocity datasets for the 1970s-2000 period.L208: Again, this statement is extremely misleading. Gaciers that are considered as "Possibly" or "Probably" surge-type cannot be consiered as such. There is no clear surge signal in the elevation change of those glaciers over the studied time periods, otherwise they would be qualified as "verified". In total, you have identified 704 surge-type glaciers at most.
L240: Please show examples of these glaciers as well as their elevation change signal for all considered periods.
Sec 6.2: This section is very qualitative and provides very few quantitative information.
Please provide estimates of the quantities you are referencing.
L308: You mention randomness, where I believe you mean variability
I do not understand the point made between L311 and 314. Please clarify.
You further mention that glacier median elevation is "irrelevant" for other topographic parameters.
Again this statement is pretty hard to understand, even though I assmue you here mean "correlated".
A glacier's median elevation is however very correlated to its elevation range. Similarly glacier are is most likely correlated to glacier elevation range (as glaciers are relatiely elongated features) so I do not really understand the point of this statement. If I misunderstood your point here pleae correct me and clarify.
Sec 6.3: This section is a bit problematic at the moment for several reasons.
First, the authors propose an inventory based on only one identification criterion and compare it to the one of Guillet et al 2022, which only comprises glaciers for which two criteria of active surges could be observerd. Apart from the intrinsic methodological difference, this comparison makes little sense, as the inventory proposed here also comprises glaciers for which surging behavior is uncertain.
This comparison should only target 704 glaciers in the inventory proposed here - which then lowers the difference with Guillet et al (2022) to 38. This in turns leads to several questions, most notably on the length so-called cycle of surging glaciers (assuming that there are no false positives in any of the inventories). Second, the authors mention that with 349 glaciers more (1015-666), they only observe a small (4%) increase in the glacierized area covered by surge-type glaciers in HMA and that, hence, the newly identified ones are relatively small.
This is in stark contrast with previous studies documenting surge-type glaciers as systematically bigger than non-surge type glaciers (Jiskoot et al., 2011, Sevestre and Benn, 2015, to cite a few) as well as what is predicted by the enthalpy balance theory (Benn et al., 2019) and needs further investigation.Hewitt, K. "Rock avalanches that travel onto glaciers and related developments, Karakoram Himalaya, Inner Asia." Geomorphology 103, no. 1 (2009): 66-79.
Paul, F., Strozzi, T., Schellenberger, T., and Kääb, A.: The 2015 Surge of Hispar Glacier in the Karakoram, Remote Sens., 9, 888, https://doi.org/10.3390/rs9090888, 2017.
Steiner, J. F., Kraaijenbrink, P. D. A., Jiduc, S. G., and Immerzeel, W. W.: Brief communication: The Khurdopin glacier surge revisited – extreme flow velocities and formation of a dammed lake in 2017, The Cryosphere, 12, 95–101, https://doi.org/10.5194/tc-12-95-2018, 2018.
Thøgersen, K., Gilbert, A., Schuler, T.V. et al. Rate-and-state friction explains glacier surge propagation. Nat Commun 10, 2823 (2019). https://doi.org/10.1038/s41467-019-10506-4
Maximillian Van Wyk de Vries, Andrew D. Wickert, Kelly R. MacGregor, Camilo Rada, Michael J. Willis; Atypical landslide induces speedup, advance, and long-term slowdown of a tidewater glacier. Geology 2022;; 50 (7): 806–811. doi: https://doi.org/10.1130/G49854.1
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/essd-2022-238-RC1 -
AC2: 'Reply on RC1', Lei Guo, 22 Nov 2022
Dear reviewer,
Thanks very much for taking time to assess our manuscript. We have carefully read the constructive comments given by you. These comments will help us to greatly improve the quality of our manuscript. We will try our best to address all the problems following your suggestions. Please find our detailed point-by-point response and revision plans in the attached supplement. We wish to have a chance to send the revised manuscript to you for further assessment. Please do not hesitate to contact us if you have any further comments.
Sincerely
Lei Guo
On behalf of all co-authors
22 November 2022
Central South University, Changsha, China
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AC2: 'Reply on RC1', Lei Guo, 22 Nov 2022
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RC2: 'Comment on essd-2022-238', Frank Paul, 10 Oct 2022
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AC3: 'Reply on RC2', Lei Guo, 22 Nov 2022
Dear reviewer,
Thanks very much for taking time to assess our manuscript. We have carefully read the constructive comments given by you. These comments will help us to greatly improve the quality of our manuscript. We will try our best to address all the problems following your suggestions. Please find our detailed point-by-point response and revision plans in the attached supplement. We wish to have a chance to send the revised manuscript to you for further assessment. Please do not hesitate to contact us if you have any further comments.
Sincerely
Lei Guo
On behalf of all co-authors
22 November 2022
Central South University, Changsha, China
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AC3: 'Reply on RC2', Lei Guo, 22 Nov 2022
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EC1: 'Editorial assessment on essd-2022-238', Georg Veh, 19 Oct 2022
Dear Dr. Guo, Dear Authors,
Your manuscript essd-2022-238 entitled " A new inventory of High Mountain Asia surge-type glaciers derived from multiple elevation datasets since the 1970s" has now been reviewed by two reviewers and we close the open discussion phase accordingly. We appreciate their constructive comments and recommendations for further improvement of the manuscript. In light of their advice, we have decided that we cannot offer the manuscript for publication in its current form. Instead, we ask that you submit a detailed response to the reviewers' comments explaining how you would address their concerns. Please refrain from submitting a revised version of your manuscript at this stage. The editors will decide whether we will proceed with a revised manuscript based on this response letter.
In particular, we appreciate that the two reviewers find aspects of your work of interest to a broader glaciological audience. Editorially, we find the approach of using DEM differencing to capture glacier surges promising, particularly because of the large spatial and long temporal scale. However, the reviewers' comments also lead us to conclude that there are potentially serious problems with the dataset you present, and in particular with its validation. One of the main criticisms is that your dataset relies on the change in surface elevation as the sole diagnostic for a possible glacier surge. This could simplify your detection given the many possible types of rapid glacier change in this region. A second important observation is that the location of the glacier surge is difficult to identify in the current dataset because the entire glacier is labeled as a surge, even if only tributary glacier surged. This contributes to similar concerns in the editorial board before the work was sent for review. Third, the paper could benefit from a systematic comparison of the present study with previous reviews in terms of previous and updated numbers of glacial outburst floods identified.
We believe that these major caveats and a number of minor terminological, technical, and statistical problems require careful revision that may take some time, both for correcting the dataset and the manuscript. Should you aim for further consideration of your work in ESSD, please make explicit reference in your response letter to whether and how you will implement the reviewers' suggestions, or propose alternative approaches instead. Should you convincingly demonstrate in your response letter that you can accommodate all of these changes, we would be happy to consider a revised manuscript. However, we understand if you prefer to publish the paper elsewhere.
Yours sincerely
Georg Veh
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/essd-2022-238-EC1
Status: closed
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AC1: 'Presented inventory in the format of ESRI shapefile', Lei Guo, 22 Aug 2022
Dear referees and editors,
Thanks for your patience while handling this manuscript!
The presented inventory in the format of ESRI Shapefile format is provided here, which could make the dataset more flexible to use. Please find that in the supplement compressed file. Also, the corresponding file on Zendo was updated as well. Hope this can help.Best regards.
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RC1: 'Comment on essd-2022-238', Gregoire Guillet, 16 Sep 2022
General comments:
The manuscript presents a new invenory of surge-type glaciers in High Mountain Asia, dervied from glacier surface elevation changes computed from various DEM sources, between the 1970's and 2010's.
The manuscript tackles an important topic which is the identification of surging behavior over a large spatial and temportal scale using remotely sensed glacier observables and thus aims at proposing an updated inventory by incorportaing historical data absent from other studies.
This problem is of significant importance or the community and the proposed paper is of overall good quality.
However, there are some major shortcomings that need to be addressed:
- The authors here rely solely on anomalous surface elevation change pattern to identify surging behavior. This can lead to false identifications of glaciers present similarly altered surface elevation change signal (See specific comments for more). Some of the widely known shortcomings of the datasets used in this study, as welll as the existing corrections (SRTM C-Band penetration correction) are not accounted for in this study, which may lead to furher false positive identifications.
- The auhors rightfully propose a classification that assigns a level of certainty over the potential surge behavior of each glacier. This is a valid approach since the authors only have one identification criterion and I commend them for doing so. However, when analyzing, discussing and presenting their results, the authors seem to forget that surge-type behavior is uncertain for some glaciers and consistently mention 1015 surge-type glaciers while "only" 704 present indications of surge-type behavior.
- Finally, some of the Introduction and Discussion lack context and an adequate description of the state of knowledge of what are glacier surges and the processes that govern glacier instabilities.I want to restate my support for this manuscript and the work it presents. Given its current state however, I suggest that the authors make major additions and changes to both their methodology and results before this manuscript can be considered for publication
As an example, adding more than one identification criterion would strengthen the confidence in the presetend results. The authors could for example use availble satellite images to visually investigate changes in surface and geomorphological features like crevasses, supraglacial ponds or looped moraines.
Specific comments:L15-16. This statement is misleading as your classification is based on the confidence degree you have over certain surge events - all the glaciers in your inventory have different level of confidence.
This directly differs from the methodology used in Guillet et al, which I assume is the work you refer to, which used different identification criterion to investigate surges.L23. This relationship was actually first described in the enthalpy blance thoery of glacier surges proposed by Benn et al 2019. Please rephrase this statement.
L27. Isn't that just because of a sampling bias, as a longer observational period allows to identify more surges ?
L32. Please describe what do those phases entail and how do they differ.
L34. While I agree that the physics governing the unstable flow exhibited by surge-type glaciers requires a better understanding, I also think that speaking of 'enigma' disregards the substantial efforts made in the recent years to further our understanding of glacier surges.
The authors should here at least refer to the works of Sevestre and Benn (2015), Benn et al (2019), or Thøgersen et al. (2019) (among others) in order to provide an up-to-date synthesis of the state of knowlegde on the physics of surge-type glaciers.L35. Please be more specific in this statement. 'Fast' is very vague without a reference.
This sentence is not easy to read and could benefit from being segmented and more detailed.L46. Not all surging glaciers show terminal advance. I suggest reading through the works of Paul et al. (2017) and Steiner et al. (2018, already cited in your work).
L58. Contrasting elevation change signal is indeed a powerful tool to identify surge-type glaciers when it is associated to other remotely sensed observations (surface velocity, changes in crevassse pattern etc.).
However the statement made here is misleading as both Lv et al (2019) and Guillet et al (2022) also changes in surface velocity to identify surges.
Furthermore, Viay and Braun (2017) focus on the early 21st century - a period of 12 years - not necessarily what could be called a 'long temporal scale'.L92: As mentionned, the NASADEM used in this sudy originates from a reprocessing of the C-band SRTM.
This data is however known for suffering from important radard penetration.
This is more than likely to create spurious elevation change signal in the upper reaches of glaciers which can then lead to false identification of build-up phases, for example.
This has to be addressed here, since the NASADEM is extensively used throughout this study.Sec 4.3: This is my main concern with this manuscript.
Surge-type glaciers are mainly identified using only surface elevation changes.
To me, this approach is a bit hazardous, as many processes can cause altered glacier surface elevation changes compared to what would be deemed as "normal" or "standard".
I am here typically thinking about glaciers affected by landslides for example (Hewitt, 2009, Van Wyk de Vries et al., 2022) for example.
This needs to be further investigated, including the possibility of using additionnal criteria to validate the identified surges. Such criteria would typically be morphological (Looped moraine or changes in crevasse patterns) as I doubt of the availability of glacier surface velocity datasets for the 1970s-2000 period.L208: Again, this statement is extremely misleading. Gaciers that are considered as "Possibly" or "Probably" surge-type cannot be consiered as such. There is no clear surge signal in the elevation change of those glaciers over the studied time periods, otherwise they would be qualified as "verified". In total, you have identified 704 surge-type glaciers at most.
L240: Please show examples of these glaciers as well as their elevation change signal for all considered periods.
Sec 6.2: This section is very qualitative and provides very few quantitative information.
Please provide estimates of the quantities you are referencing.
L308: You mention randomness, where I believe you mean variability
I do not understand the point made between L311 and 314. Please clarify.
You further mention that glacier median elevation is "irrelevant" for other topographic parameters.
Again this statement is pretty hard to understand, even though I assmue you here mean "correlated".
A glacier's median elevation is however very correlated to its elevation range. Similarly glacier are is most likely correlated to glacier elevation range (as glaciers are relatiely elongated features) so I do not really understand the point of this statement. If I misunderstood your point here pleae correct me and clarify.
Sec 6.3: This section is a bit problematic at the moment for several reasons.
First, the authors propose an inventory based on only one identification criterion and compare it to the one of Guillet et al 2022, which only comprises glaciers for which two criteria of active surges could be observerd. Apart from the intrinsic methodological difference, this comparison makes little sense, as the inventory proposed here also comprises glaciers for which surging behavior is uncertain.
This comparison should only target 704 glaciers in the inventory proposed here - which then lowers the difference with Guillet et al (2022) to 38. This in turns leads to several questions, most notably on the length so-called cycle of surging glaciers (assuming that there are no false positives in any of the inventories). Second, the authors mention that with 349 glaciers more (1015-666), they only observe a small (4%) increase in the glacierized area covered by surge-type glaciers in HMA and that, hence, the newly identified ones are relatively small.
This is in stark contrast with previous studies documenting surge-type glaciers as systematically bigger than non-surge type glaciers (Jiskoot et al., 2011, Sevestre and Benn, 2015, to cite a few) as well as what is predicted by the enthalpy balance theory (Benn et al., 2019) and needs further investigation.Hewitt, K. "Rock avalanches that travel onto glaciers and related developments, Karakoram Himalaya, Inner Asia." Geomorphology 103, no. 1 (2009): 66-79.
Paul, F., Strozzi, T., Schellenberger, T., and Kääb, A.: The 2015 Surge of Hispar Glacier in the Karakoram, Remote Sens., 9, 888, https://doi.org/10.3390/rs9090888, 2017.
Steiner, J. F., Kraaijenbrink, P. D. A., Jiduc, S. G., and Immerzeel, W. W.: Brief communication: The Khurdopin glacier surge revisited – extreme flow velocities and formation of a dammed lake in 2017, The Cryosphere, 12, 95–101, https://doi.org/10.5194/tc-12-95-2018, 2018.
Thøgersen, K., Gilbert, A., Schuler, T.V. et al. Rate-and-state friction explains glacier surge propagation. Nat Commun 10, 2823 (2019). https://doi.org/10.1038/s41467-019-10506-4
Maximillian Van Wyk de Vries, Andrew D. Wickert, Kelly R. MacGregor, Camilo Rada, Michael J. Willis; Atypical landslide induces speedup, advance, and long-term slowdown of a tidewater glacier. Geology 2022;; 50 (7): 806–811. doi: https://doi.org/10.1130/G49854.1
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/essd-2022-238-RC1 -
AC2: 'Reply on RC1', Lei Guo, 22 Nov 2022
Dear reviewer,
Thanks very much for taking time to assess our manuscript. We have carefully read the constructive comments given by you. These comments will help us to greatly improve the quality of our manuscript. We will try our best to address all the problems following your suggestions. Please find our detailed point-by-point response and revision plans in the attached supplement. We wish to have a chance to send the revised manuscript to you for further assessment. Please do not hesitate to contact us if you have any further comments.
Sincerely
Lei Guo
On behalf of all co-authors
22 November 2022
Central South University, Changsha, China
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AC2: 'Reply on RC1', Lei Guo, 22 Nov 2022
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RC2: 'Comment on essd-2022-238', Frank Paul, 10 Oct 2022
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AC3: 'Reply on RC2', Lei Guo, 22 Nov 2022
Dear reviewer,
Thanks very much for taking time to assess our manuscript. We have carefully read the constructive comments given by you. These comments will help us to greatly improve the quality of our manuscript. We will try our best to address all the problems following your suggestions. Please find our detailed point-by-point response and revision plans in the attached supplement. We wish to have a chance to send the revised manuscript to you for further assessment. Please do not hesitate to contact us if you have any further comments.
Sincerely
Lei Guo
On behalf of all co-authors
22 November 2022
Central South University, Changsha, China
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AC3: 'Reply on RC2', Lei Guo, 22 Nov 2022
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EC1: 'Editorial assessment on essd-2022-238', Georg Veh, 19 Oct 2022
Dear Dr. Guo, Dear Authors,
Your manuscript essd-2022-238 entitled " A new inventory of High Mountain Asia surge-type glaciers derived from multiple elevation datasets since the 1970s" has now been reviewed by two reviewers and we close the open discussion phase accordingly. We appreciate their constructive comments and recommendations for further improvement of the manuscript. In light of their advice, we have decided that we cannot offer the manuscript for publication in its current form. Instead, we ask that you submit a detailed response to the reviewers' comments explaining how you would address their concerns. Please refrain from submitting a revised version of your manuscript at this stage. The editors will decide whether we will proceed with a revised manuscript based on this response letter.
In particular, we appreciate that the two reviewers find aspects of your work of interest to a broader glaciological audience. Editorially, we find the approach of using DEM differencing to capture glacier surges promising, particularly because of the large spatial and long temporal scale. However, the reviewers' comments also lead us to conclude that there are potentially serious problems with the dataset you present, and in particular with its validation. One of the main criticisms is that your dataset relies on the change in surface elevation as the sole diagnostic for a possible glacier surge. This could simplify your detection given the many possible types of rapid glacier change in this region. A second important observation is that the location of the glacier surge is difficult to identify in the current dataset because the entire glacier is labeled as a surge, even if only tributary glacier surged. This contributes to similar concerns in the editorial board before the work was sent for review. Third, the paper could benefit from a systematic comparison of the present study with previous reviews in terms of previous and updated numbers of glacial outburst floods identified.
We believe that these major caveats and a number of minor terminological, technical, and statistical problems require careful revision that may take some time, both for correcting the dataset and the manuscript. Should you aim for further consideration of your work in ESSD, please make explicit reference in your response letter to whether and how you will implement the reviewers' suggestions, or propose alternative approaches instead. Should you convincingly demonstrate in your response letter that you can accommodate all of these changes, we would be happy to consider a revised manuscript. However, we understand if you prefer to publish the paper elsewhere.
Yours sincerely
Georg Veh
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/essd-2022-238-EC1
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